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		By: LK Gardner-Griffie		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bethecatblog.com/2011/01/a-perception-of-young-adult-fiction/#comment-1148&quot;&gt;Paul Joseph&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts, Paul. I agree... kids in alternative school are not likely to use the phrase &lt;em&gt;diddly darn&lt;/em&gt; (but if they hung out in a retirement home, they &lt;em&gt;might&lt;/em&gt; hear it) and to portray them as doing so would not be a true representation. As writers we need to strive for that balance of realistic dialogue, and something which flows on the page well. Let&#039;s face it, most conversations we hear on the street between teens &lt;strong&gt;OR&lt;/strong&gt; adults would make boring, incomprehensible, or simply bad writing.

And the topics of sex and drugs are not written with the idea of promoting the situations (I guess I should qualify that MOST for teens are not), but can be written to help prevent, to educate, but to do so in such a way that the kids reading the book identify with the character, and yet say, &lt;em&gt;&quot;I don&#039;t want that to happen to me.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; And that, my friend, takes a skillful writer.

And I agree when writing realistic fiction, the author holds a mirror up to reflect society as it is... so your question is on the mark. But I&#039;ll up your challenge for thought...can we as writers hold up the mirror and not just reflect, in the guise of our story, the microcosm of life we chose to portray, but cast that reflection in the direction we&#039;d like to go?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bethecatblog.com/2011/01/a-perception-of-young-adult-fiction/#comment-1148">Paul Joseph</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts, Paul. I agree&#8230; kids in alternative school are not likely to use the phrase <em>diddly darn</em> (but if they hung out in a retirement home, they <em>might</em> hear it) and to portray them as doing so would not be a true representation. As writers we need to strive for that balance of realistic dialogue, and something which flows on the page well. Let&#8217;s face it, most conversations we hear on the street between teens <strong>OR</strong> adults would make boring, incomprehensible, or simply bad writing.</p>
<p>And the topics of sex and drugs are not written with the idea of promoting the situations (I guess I should qualify that MOST for teens are not), but can be written to help prevent, to educate, but to do so in such a way that the kids reading the book identify with the character, and yet say, <em>&#8220;I don&#8217;t want that to happen to me.&#8221;</em> And that, my friend, takes a skillful writer.</p>
<p>And I agree when writing realistic fiction, the author holds a mirror up to reflect society as it is&#8230; so your question is on the mark. But I&#8217;ll up your challenge for thought&#8230;can we as writers hold up the mirror and not just reflect, in the guise of our story, the microcosm of life we chose to portray, but cast that reflection in the direction we&#8217;d like to go?</p>
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		By: Paul Joseph		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is an excellent post and point of discussion, LK.  And I think you have the right approach - if these elements are critical to the storyline, they must absolutely be included.  I struggle with this a tad for my current W.I.P.  At times, I step back and think, Man do these kids have filthy mouths.  But you know what, that is typical of kids who would be in this type of setting.  Say the book is about kids in an alternative or reform school - do we really think they are saying lines like &quot;Oh sugar!&quot;  Exactly.  My motto has always been to write the words the way they would come out of the character&#039;s mouth.  During the stage of revision, I&#039;ll try and clean it up - not to alter the storyline, but just so it isn&#039;t a focal point.  Sex and drugs are more complicated, because I never want to be thought of as somene &quot;promoting&quot; these situations among young teens.  However, if you are describing a fifteen year old male who just lost his virginity to some smoking cheerleader, do we really think he has any regrets??  Exactly.  I struggle with portraying teen life accurately, while at the same time, being careful not to glamorize dangerous choices.

HOWEVER, at the end of the day, here are my thoughts: Don&#039;t get angry with me for capturing the truth.  If someone is offended by language or sex or drugs or whatever the case may be - then look at WHY that is being portrayed.  It&#039;s because my teen novels are designed as REALISTIC fiction.  Therefore, is it the book that is the problem, or is it our culture??  Food for thought.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent post and point of discussion, LK.  And I think you have the right approach &#8211; if these elements are critical to the storyline, they must absolutely be included.  I struggle with this a tad for my current W.I.P.  At times, I step back and think, Man do these kids have filthy mouths.  But you know what, that is typical of kids who would be in this type of setting.  Say the book is about kids in an alternative or reform school &#8211; do we really think they are saying lines like &#8220;Oh sugar!&#8221;  Exactly.  My motto has always been to write the words the way they would come out of the character&#8217;s mouth.  During the stage of revision, I&#8217;ll try and clean it up &#8211; not to alter the storyline, but just so it isn&#8217;t a focal point.  Sex and drugs are more complicated, because I never want to be thought of as somene &#8220;promoting&#8221; these situations among young teens.  However, if you are describing a fifteen year old male who just lost his virginity to some smoking cheerleader, do we really think he has any regrets??  Exactly.  I struggle with portraying teen life accurately, while at the same time, being careful not to glamorize dangerous choices.</p>
<p>HOWEVER, at the end of the day, here are my thoughts: Don&#8217;t get angry with me for capturing the truth.  If someone is offended by language or sex or drugs or whatever the case may be &#8211; then look at WHY that is being portrayed.  It&#8217;s because my teen novels are designed as REALISTIC fiction.  Therefore, is it the book that is the problem, or is it our culture??  Food for thought.</p>
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		By: LK Gardner-Griffie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bethecatblog.com/2011/01/a-perception-of-young-adult-fiction/#comment-1144&quot;&gt;alta&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve encountered the opposite reaction, but haven&#039;t run into it for awhile. Although as much of a misconception, and I do correct it as well, it bothers me a &lt;em&gt;little&lt;/em&gt; less - which is a bit of a commentary about me. It &lt;strong&gt;does&lt;/strong&gt; bother me though because it denigrates a robust category of books, and puts them on par with fluff. Not that fluff is bad, and not that there is no place for sweet sixteen, holding hands, first kiss type of books in the genre - there is. As well as those which take on the rougher sides of life - including sex and foul language. I read all kinds of books at that age, from those which were strictly entertainment value to those with heavier topics, such as the holocaust, war, and death - and everything in between.

I &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;LOVE&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; that you said you want to read the books with your daughters and discuss them - I discussed all sorts of books with my mom (and still do) and I don&#039;t think it&#039;s done enough now. Moms or dads.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bethecatblog.com/2011/01/a-perception-of-young-adult-fiction/#comment-1144">alta</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve encountered the opposite reaction, but haven&#8217;t run into it for awhile. Although as much of a misconception, and I do correct it as well, it bothers me a <em>little</em> less &#8211; which is a bit of a commentary about me. It <strong>does</strong> bother me though because it denigrates a robust category of books, and puts them on par with fluff. Not that fluff is bad, and not that there is no place for sweet sixteen, holding hands, first kiss type of books in the genre &#8211; there is. As well as those which take on the rougher sides of life &#8211; including sex and foul language. I read all kinds of books at that age, from those which were strictly entertainment value to those with heavier topics, such as the holocaust, war, and death &#8211; and everything in between.</p>
<p>I <strong><em>LOVE</em></strong> that you said you want to read the books with your daughters and discuss them &#8211; I discussed all sorts of books with my mom (and still do) and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s done enough now. Moms or dads.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bethecatblog.com/2011/01/a-perception-of-young-adult-fiction/#comment-1143&quot;&gt;Lisette Brodey&lt;/a&gt;.

I love YA for the very reason that it does have a great deal of variety, and I have loved watching the genre grow and mature. I think there need to be stories on both sides of the spectrum - both edgy and wholesome, and everything in between. And most people I come in contact with (albeit they are writers) do view YA as the diverse category that it is, so it was interesting to come across such a narrow view of what the genre has to offer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bethecatblog.com/2011/01/a-perception-of-young-adult-fiction/#comment-1143">Lisette Brodey</a>.</p>
<p>I love YA for the very reason that it does have a great deal of variety, and I have loved watching the genre grow and mature. I think there need to be stories on both sides of the spectrum &#8211; both edgy and wholesome, and everything in between. And most people I come in contact with (albeit they are writers) do view YA as the diverse category that it is, so it was interesting to come across such a narrow view of what the genre has to offer.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had the opposite reaction, although I&#039;m not as far along in the writing as you, but most of the people I&#039;ve talked to view YA in a sweet sixteen, holding hands, first kiss kind of way. Bubble gum and pigtails. 
It&#039;s amazing how wide the spectrum of misconceptions is. For me, I&#039;m writing, what I hope will be, something my girls and I can read when they&#039;re in high school. I&#039;d love to see mothers and daughters reading the same book, discussing it and how it fits within their family values, and just generally bonding over it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had the opposite reaction, although I&#8217;m not as far along in the writing as you, but most of the people I&#8217;ve talked to view YA in a sweet sixteen, holding hands, first kiss kind of way. Bubble gum and pigtails.<br />
It&#8217;s amazing how wide the spectrum of misconceptions is. For me, I&#8217;m writing, what I hope will be, something my girls and I can read when they&#8217;re in high school. I&#8217;d love to see mothers and daughters reading the same book, discussing it and how it fits within their family values, and just generally bonding over it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 05:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is so interesting to me. When I wrote my novel, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Squalor-New-Mexico-Lisette-Brodey/dp/098158361X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1295763592&amp;sr=8-1&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Squalor, New Mexico&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, I thought I was just writing a coming-of-age story in the general fiction category. I learned that it was YA when an agent told me she loved my writing but didn&#039;t rep YA. I was stunned. Say what? Way back when, I had thought that if there were adult themes and such, it wasn&#039;t technically YA. This was quite a long time ago and yes, I was clueless. So, the reason I&#039;m writing this comment is because I find it ironic that once I had just the opposite viewpoint about YA. 

To me, every genre should have something for every person. It&#039;s sad when any blanket expectations are made. Great blog, LK. This gave me a great deal of insight.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so interesting to me. When I wrote my novel, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Squalor-New-Mexico-Lisette-Brodey/dp/098158361X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1295763592&#038;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><em>Squalor, New Mexico</em></a>, I thought I was just writing a coming-of-age story in the general fiction category. I learned that it was YA when an agent told me she loved my writing but didn&#8217;t rep YA. I was stunned. Say what? Way back when, I had thought that if there were adult themes and such, it wasn&#8217;t technically YA. This was quite a long time ago and yes, I was clueless. So, the reason I&#8217;m writing this comment is because I find it ironic that once I had just the opposite viewpoint about YA. </p>
<p>To me, every genre should have something for every person. It&#8217;s sad when any blanket expectations are made. Great blog, LK. This gave me a great deal of insight.</p>
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